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perumkc99
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Posted - November 04 2003 :  08:04:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit perumkc99's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Which would be better in the long run? The sonor single pedal double bass, or simply a double bass pedal? Or two bass drums, both with the sonor pedal? :)


Also, what do you guys practice when you sit down at the kit? Songs? Or rudiments? And if songs, can you guys give me some tips on what songs would benefit me the most? I'm trying to get really good, so I need all the advice I can get! Thanks in advance.

Genovese
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USA
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Posted - November 04 2003 :  09:54:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Genovese's Homepage  Send Genovese an AOL message  Send Genovese a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
the single double pedal seems like a gimmick to me. mainly though it all comes down to preference and which feels best to you. i prefer a double pedal myself (iron cobra at the moment)
getting a good practice routine down is key. just getting in the habit of starting a warm up with some rudiments. (that alone is a task and a half, but it's the dues paying all good drummers go through). then setting in on whatever your teacher has you working on at the moment. or work out of books (new breed 1 and 2 are excellent. take your fav band and just jam on them to sorta close out your practice (call it a reward if you will for all the other exercises you did). no single song is gonna make you better than another song. consistent daily practice (not just playing along to your fav songs) will help you reach new levels.
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Diesel
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Posted - November 15 2003 :  08:57:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit Diesel's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Single double bass seems extremely stupid to me, but of course that's my opinion ( Try out double bass, single double bass, and double bass drums, see which one you feel most comfortable with ). As for double bass pedals, I recommend Tama Iron Cobra's, awesome pedals. As for practice, I can't give you much help there. If you want to learn a good practice routine I'd recommend that you take lessons. Or buy Dave Weckl's "How To Practice" video. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=031115005407152163252193362551/g=perc/search/detail/base_id/46758
^ check that out, it'll give you some information on the Dave Weckl video

Good luck!

Edited by - Diesel on November 15 2003 08:59:30 AM
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mantis
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USA
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Posted - November 15 2003 :  8:28:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit mantis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i start my practices with a simple groove. like left foot h.h. on the upbeat and bass drum on one, then ad some flavor. then some singles and doubles on the snare with the left foot tappin some quarters. then switch over to the ride and do some 1/8 or half note on the ride. the half notes on the ride may seem a little slow but it sound kinda spacey to me. make shure everything is even. dont practice for speed. that will happen in a few years. lessons never hurt and niether does a good book.
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heat
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Finland
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Posted - November 16 2003 :  2:13:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit heat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Double bass pedals.. Iron cobra pedals are totally great. I my self have double bass so i have two iron cobra single pedals. But ofcourse you have to see what's best for you. For me it's double bass.
Practice.. when i started playing drums i never really had the "energy" to start learning notes or **** like that. I listened to drummers like lars ulrich and then some black metal drummers like nick barker from dimmu borgir and dave lombardo. That's when i knew i wanted to have a double bass kit, and i practiced by listening to their drum solos and learning them and then motifying them. Worked for me..
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draggin-left
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Posted - December 06 2003 :  11:25:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit draggin-left's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, I actually own a single pedal double kick, but it's not a sonor. It's a Duallist.

Forget the Sonor pedal. Anything with a total heel technique has got to be tricky, and not worth your time. You'll break your foot or worse.

The Duallist is awesome. It works a little differently, but it's a much better system. I challenge anybody with a double pedal on this forum to pull off a 1e+ 2e+ 3e+ 4e+ faster then me :P

That said, the Duallist at maximum speed pulls off 1e+a about about 150-170 range max. So if your're into Bostaph/Lombardo licks, it's not going to happen. Shuffles are fantastically easy, however.

Look at the web site, it has a couple videos (guy pulls off a bossa with doubles and **** like that. Pretty awesome watching those guys play.)

My two cents,
Chris

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Ekim
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Posted - December 07 2003 :  07:01:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ekim's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Break your foot? HUH????

What about heel/toe techique? It's almost the same thing motion wise (I think, I've not seen the Sonor double thing in use).

I would say get a good double pedal, but if you can try the Sonor thing in person, do it. If you like it, BUY IT!
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Pegleg Joe
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Posted - April 24 2004 :  06:37:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Pegleg Joe's Homepage  Send Pegleg Joe an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Since we're on the double bass topic what is the point of two bass drums? Is it the same as a double bass pedal? Or do people use it so they can have excessive toms and a bass drum in the right place at all times?
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Skyler
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USA
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Posted - April 24 2004 :  6:38:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit Skyler's Homepage  Send Skyler an AOL message  Click to see Skyler's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I use double base pedal, 1 drum. I've only saw a picture of the sonar thing. It looks tricky. Try everything, then pick what you like.
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