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EdRodriguez99
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 Posted - March 04 2010 : 8:58:43 PM
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| I keep finding drumsets i like at guitar center and than i find out that its only a shell pack so what im asking is how much money would it cost? to buy hardware for a 5 piece drumset and what would i need to get? to have a fully functioning set. |
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MisterMarimba
Moderator
USA
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Posted - March 04 2010 : 10:54:49 PM
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It just depends on your overall budget. Hardware is VERY important in the playability of your kit and hardware is commonly the first stuff to break when you're gigging, traveling or just in general wear & tear. There are some great hardware companies out there, but that means that there are some TERRIBLE hardware companies as well. Similarly, even the good companies have cheap stuff... you'll get what you pay for in hardware.
I think most of us in this forum will agree that the DW (Drum Workshop)9000-series and 5000-series hardware is great; the Yamaha 900-series is great, but their HEX Rack system is AMAZING in my opinion; and I actually like Pearl hardware too. Although many people have great experiences with Gibraltar hardware, I've had nothing but negative experiences with their products -- call it bad luck if you want, lol.
Basically, you just need a bass-drum pedal, hi-hat stand, snare stand, throne and two cymbals stands (one ride, one crash) to get off to a good start. If your shell pack doesn't include tom mounts for the bass drum, you'll have to pick up tom stands as well. Just find something in your budget for now and replace things over the next few years if you feel the need. Just remember: A 10" drum sounds like a 10" drum and feels like a 10" drum, but cymbals and hardware change the way you PLAY. |
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dbdrumsbass
Junior Member
USA
363 Posts |
Posted - March 05 2010 : 06:28:38 AM
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I would at least suggest angling for double-braced hardware over single braced cymbal and hi-hat stand hardware. That's referring to the "tripod folding legs" at the base of the stand. The double-braced stands are more "solid".
Seeing in your other post that you seem to be looking in the $700 range for shells, I doubt you'd want to drop $200 (or however much they cost) for a DW-9000 series hi-hat stand (which I use, as well as a few other of us...which, for the record, is the nicest SMOOTHEST feeling hi-hat stand that I've ever played) but keep quality in mind.
If you are looking at Guitar Center to buy your stuff, you can easily go to their website www.guitarcenter.com and go to the drum hardware section and see what kind of prices you'll be talking.
MisterMarimba nailed your basic setup, though, as far as the hardware you'd need to get started. You don't need 85 cymbals...frankly if you need to buy cymbals too you'll be dropping some coin when this is all over, but I wouldn't let a lower price determine what you buy (if you can afford it). Otherwise you'll buy cheap equipment, you'll start playing it and start getting good, and will already want something better because you'll realize that the cheaper stuff you got just isn't cutting it. Now you'll have stuff that won't be worth CRAP in a sale or trade to try and move up to better stuff.
Guys like Marimba and myself, and a handful of others who chime in from time to time, have been playing for MANY years. We have been down these roads when we were getting started: cheap drums, hardware, and cymbals.
One final suggestion...and this is strictly my opinion. In the world of hardware, the one thing I would STRONGLY suggest is to not go cheap on your kick pedal. I'm not saying that you need a DW-9000 series pedal to be good (although they are super nice!!). I do suggest going to music stores and doing some kick pedal tests...generally they have 10-12 lined up and mounted to a stand such that the beater will strike a silent rubber surface. Some of the cheaper ones may seem good enough to get you started, but if they have little adjustment you won't be able to tailor it as you develop your technique. You may find that after a while you don't want to have to push the kick plate down as far to allow the beater to strike the head to increase speed...some of the cheaper pedals do not allow for adjustments like this which can help you play better. |
Danny "dB" Berton
www.dannyberton.com
DW "Collectors Series" maple kit with MAY internal mic system
DW 9000-series Hardware
Zildjian Hats/Crashes/Ride ; Dream Chinas
Vater "Power 5A" sticks
Roc-n-Soc drum throne
SKB cases |
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MisterMarimba
Moderator
USA
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Posted - March 05 2010 : 06:44:37 AM
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In drumset, your feet are like jet pilots... as good as they are, they're only as good as the jet they pilot.
The pedals can actually help you to develop your full potential. So even if you can't afford really-nice pedals right now during your initial-investment period, know that good hardware (and nice cymbals) should be top priority in the future.
Since your profile says you are 97 years young, maybe you should buy now and not wait, LOL. |
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dbdrumsbass
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - March 05 2010 : 11:59:24 AM
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I would at least suggest angling for double-braced hardware over single braced cymbal and hi-hat stand hardware. That's referring to the "tripod folding legs" at the base of the stand. The double-braced stands are more "solid".
Seeing in your other post that you seem to be looking in the $700 range for shells, I doubt you'd want to drop $200 (or however much they cost) for a DW-9000 series hi-hat stand (which I use, as well as a few other of us...which, for the record, is the nicest SMOOTHEST feeling hi-hat stand that I've ever played) but keep quality in mind.
If you are looking at Guitar Center to buy your stuff, you can easily go to their website www.guitarcenter.com and go to the drum hardware section and see what kind of prices you'll be talking.
MisterMarimba nailed your basic setup, though, as far as the hardware you'd need to get started. You don't need 85 cymbals...frankly if you need to buy cymbals too you'll be dropping some coin when this is all over, but I wouldn't let a lower price determine what you buy (if you can afford it). Otherwise you'll buy cheap equipment, you'll start playing it and start getting good, and will already want something better because you'll realize that the cheaper stuff you got just isn't cutting it. Now you'll have stuff that won't be worth CRAP in a sale or trade to try and move up to better stuff.
Guys like Marimba and myself, and a handful of others who chime in from time to time, have been playing for MANY years. We have been down these roads when we were getting started: cheap drums, hardware, and cymbals.
One final suggestion...and this is strictly my opinion. In the world of hardware, the one thing I would STRONGLY suggest is to not go cheap on your kick pedal. I'm not saying that you need a DW-9000 series pedal to be good (although they are super nice!!). I do suggest going to music stores and doing some kick pedal tests...generally they have 10-12 lined up and mounted to a stand such that the beater will strike a silent rubber surface. Some of the cheaper ones may seem good enough to get you started, but if they have little adjustment you won't be able to tailor it as you develop your technique. You may find that after a while you don't want to have to push the kick plate down as far to allow the beater to strike the head to increase speed...some of the cheaper pedals do not allow for adjustments like this which can help you play better. |
Danny "dB" Berton
www.dannyberton.com
DW "Collectors Series" maple kit with MAY internal mic system
DW 9000-series Hardware
Zildjian Hats/Crashes/Ride ; Dream Chinas
Vater "Power 5A" sticks
Roc-n-Soc drum throne
SKB cases |
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How much would drum hardware cost for a drumset?
