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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 03 2010 :  8:02:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey. I've been playin' drums for a couple months now, and I un-tuned my bottom snare head slightly about a week ago, and ever since then, its chosen to not cooperate when I hit a tom by ringing really loud. It never rang before. WHAT DO I DO?!

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MisterMarimba
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Posted - March 03 2010 :  8:39:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit MisterMarimba's Homepage  Send MisterMarimba an AOL message  Send MisterMarimba a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like you might need a new snare-side head and/or re-tune ALL your drums to get rid of unwanted, sympathetic vibration (snares buzzing when toms are played).

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zac01shortstop
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Posted - March 03 2010 :  8:41:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe try adjusting the tunning of your toms slightly or either tune ur snare back to how it was.

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  06:47:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The thing is, I already tuned it back to the way it was, and it still rung. So, I thing I screwed it up.

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MisterMarimba
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  08:18:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit MisterMarimba's Homepage  Send MisterMarimba an AOL message  Send MisterMarimba a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
When you re-tuned the bottom head, did you also re-tune the snares themselves?

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dbdrumsbass
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  3:46:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterMarimba

When you re-tuned the bottom head, did you also re-tune the snares themselves?



Good suggestion here that may cure your problem.

We all have different tastes as far as tension goes (for heads and snare beds..hey, that rhymed!!), but a good rule of thumb on snare tension is to strike the batter head with a drumstick at a moderate level (mf dynamic level, if you understand that terminology better...and for the record I didn't call you a mother f#cker there if you don't know that term) and start tightening the snare tension. You'll find that you'll reach a point where the snare buzz sound will start to choke out, and you'll start to hear more of the sound of the snare as though you threw off the snare strainer. That "sweet spot" has a lot to do with the tension of that bottom head, but when you find that magic point I'm referring to back off the snare tension slightly and see if this fixes your issue.

Personally, I keep my snares a little looser than this, but just about every drummer that sits behind my kit says "dang you like the tension of your snares on the loose side". So I must be out-of-the-norm, but I'm OK with that. I only have 1 tom out of 5 in my setup that can get my snare to buzz uncontrollably...and it has more to do with the pitch of the snare and if that frequency happens to be sympathetic frequency of the tom that is causing it to buzz.


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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  5:45:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dbdrumsbass, I did not un-loose the snares at all. I actually have them as tight as possible.

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  5:46:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...and they still ring.

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MisterMarimba
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Posted - March 04 2010 :  7:48:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit MisterMarimba's Homepage  Send MisterMarimba an AOL message  Send MisterMarimba a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If you've always kept the snares as tight as they will go, they might be over-stressed or worn out. Start by loosening your strainer ALL the way and slowly tightening it back up while playing some "test notes"(like DBdrumsbass suggests).

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  3:01:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks MisterMarimba. I'll try that.

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  4:52:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! This is getting so FRUSTURATING! I tried what MisterMarimba told me, but that didn't do CRAP! I've actually tried everything that people have told me (even my drum teacher)but NOTHING worked! WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO?!

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  5:09:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tightened them back to the way they were (as tight as possible), but my snare wires don't even sound as tight as they used to.

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MisterMarimba
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  6:33:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit MisterMarimba's Homepage  Send MisterMarimba an AOL message  Send MisterMarimba a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like the snares themselves are worn out. Once they're stretched out too much, they never go back.

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  7:37:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks MisterMarimba, that sounds like my case. They are pretty old snares, and like I said earlier, they are as tight as can be and still sound loose. Thanks again.

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Beatle Drummer
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Posted - March 05 2010 :  7:52:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's as if when I turned them off then slightly untuned the resonant head, they said "That's it! I've taken to much. I'm done." I'm gettin' new snares soon. Maybe next week or even this weekend.

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Dave Moadel
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Posted - April 05 2010 :  11:19:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume you mean "buzz" and not "ring"? If it's "ring," then buy one of those plastic rings (Remo and Evans make them) that you lay on the perimeter of the batter head.

If you mean "buzz," then try all of the following things:

Use the snare strainer to tighten the snare wires gradually, while tapping on the batter head every few seconds. (However, be careful not to over-tighten the snare wires.)

Tighten the batter head very tightly. This should eliminate a little bit of the buzz.

On the snare-side head, loosen the four lugs that are closest to the snare wires (there are two on one side, and two on the opposite side). This should bring the snare wires slightly closer to the head, thereby eliminating a little bit of the buzz.

Take a three-inch strip of electrical tape (the skinny black tape), and place it over the snare wires, in a position that is perpendicular to the snare wires and an inch away from the edge of the hoop. Then place another similar strip of tape in a similar position on the opposite side, on the other end of the snare wires, also perpendicular and an inch away from the hoop.

Finally, if none of these things work, then check closely to see whether any of the snare wires is bent or broken. Also, make sure to check the tightness of any screws/lugs holding the strings/plastic strips/whatever is holding the snare wires in place.

If none of these things work, then your drums are possessed by Satan. Get rid of them immediately.
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meleemaelstrom
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Posted - April 14 2010 :  4:23:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit meleemaelstrom's Homepage  Send meleemaelstrom an AOL message  Click to see meleemaelstrom's MSN Messenger address  Send meleemaelstrom a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
the way i see it, your probably never going to elminate 100 percent of the snare ring from your kit, ive always been able hear at least a little.
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